MBI Species Classification Request

General

Name:

Glen King ( rgrking )

Status:

Denied

Date:

11/19/2011

Classification Type:

New

Challenge

Species:

Holothuria sp.

Suggested Class:

Common Name(s):

Sea Cucumber, Sandfish

Species Synonyms:

Holothuridae

Fish/Invert/Culture:

Spawn Mode:

N/A

Fish Base Link:

http://www.sealifebase.org/ComNames/CommonNameSearchList.php

Breeding Success:

True

Success References:

www.spc.int/DigitalLibrary/Doc/FAME/.../BDM31_35_Dabbagh.pdf
www.fao.org/docrep/007/y5501e/y5501e17.htm
www.fao.org/docrep/field/003/AB729E/AB729E02.htm
worldfish.catalog.cgiar.org/naga/na_2158.pdf

Journal:

If Challenging Existing Classification
Reasons Species Should be Reclassified:

If Requesting New Classification
Research or Links to information on Species:	animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/invertebrates/sea-cucumber/ www.oceandocs.net/bitstream/1834/38/1/WIOJ12163.pdf http://www.reefbase.org/resource_center/publication/pub_21848.aspx www.idosi.org/wjfms/wjfms3(3)11/16.pdf www.apfic.org/apfic_downloads/FAO.../FAO_seacucumber.pdf eprints.cmfri.org.in/2830/1/Article_16.pdf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_cucumber en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holothuria http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/sea_cucumber.aspx

If Requesting New Classification

Research or Links to information on Species:

animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/invertebrates/sea-cucumber/
www.oceandocs.net/bitstream/1834/38/1/WIOJ12163.pdf
http://www.reefbase.org/resource_center/publication/pub_21848.aspx
www.idosi.org/wjfms/wjfms3(3)11/16.pdf
www.apfic.org/apfic_downloads/FAO.../FAO_seacucumber.pdf
eprints.cmfri.org.in/2830/1/Article_16.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_cucumber
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holothuria
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/sea_cucumber.aspx

Other Details
Other Information:	They are supposed to be easy to breed. They are commercially bred. It is impossible to know what species you have, unless you have a microscope and specific knowledge literature on them. It just needs classed as a group.

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mpedersen
(Matt Pedersen)
2/29/12 08:40 PM Glen, this species request has been out there a while; the problem is with doing something to the genus level. There are literally potentially hundreds of species - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holothuria So...that means that someone could breed dozens of these, but there'd be no way for the system to recognize is. The reality is that if we have species in the trade, they will still have a trade name even if the species ID could be in question. So I see two realistic routes to go here. #1 - submit the particular species you're interested in working with as an actual species, or #2 - use a trade name that makes sense...eg. Holothuria sp. "Tiger Tail", and when requesting the species with a trade name, do the due diligence of trying to find an appropriate species name. I've not denied this request outright because I'm wanting to hear your thoughts on my comments.

mpedersen
(Matt Pedersen)
2/29/12 08:42 PM Also, just as an example, it wasn't hard to find a ID for a common trade species like the "Tiger Tail" - http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/1/inverts

aomont
(Anderson Monteiro)
6/26/12 06:03 PM Glen We have given this request some thought and have decided we do not need to reach species level to every entry in the species list but we need to narrow it as much as we can and the suggestion Matt has given may be a solution. If you are breeding any cucumber species, few free to start a journal and we can figure together the best way to open a request and include it in the species list.

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